Are New Testament Reports of Christ’s Resurrection Like Discrepancies in Joseph Smith’s First Vision-2

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[Music] are the New Testament reports of Christ's resurrection
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like discrepancies found in Joseph Smith's first vision well welcome to the final edition in our series is
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Christianity the Mormonism of Judaism where we are answering the claims of the Jewish rabbis who assert that
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Christianity has a distorted Judaism in much the same way that we Christians believe that Mormonism has distorted the
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teachings of Christianity as we have been seeing throughout this series Christianity has not distorted Judaism
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rather it's the Judaism of the second century onward to today that has distorted Judaism it is the Judaism of
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the second century that changed their views about the Messiah being the Son of God to try to get people not to believe
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that Jesus fulfilled those prophecies in the Old Testament is the Judaism of the Middle Ages as we saw that changed their
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definitions and their interpretations of the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 to try to make it look like the Messiah
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would not suffer that this is not a prophecy about a messiah who would come to redeem Israel as we Christians
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believe and so Judaism has changed over the years but Christianity is consistent with ancient Judaism in asserting that
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these prophecies are fulfilled in Christ when he came in the first century and we believe that Christianity came out of
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ancient Judaism as revealed in the scriptures as consistent with the teachings of both the old and the new
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testament scriptures now today we're going to be examining the evidence for the resurrection of Christ this being
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our final video in the series I chose this topic to be the final video to end on because the resurrection forms the
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basis of the historic Christian faith as the Apostle Paul said in first Corinthians 15 if Christ has not been
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raised we are indeed the most miserable we are to be pitied if you will Paul was saying that the resurrection of
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Christ that event the historicity and the reliability of that event forms the foundation of the Christian faith thus
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it's very important it is of utmost important that we evaluate the evidence for the resurrection of Christ and the
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reliability of the New Testament eyewitness accounts of the resurrection to be able to determine if we can trust
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the claims of Christ and of Christianity so this is our final video in the series and this is the topic of discussion
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today we are going to be examining not only the evidence for the resurrection of Christ but also the unfair claims of
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the rabbi's where they try to equate alleged discrepancies within the resurrection accounts just differences
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that we find between the gospel accounts of Christ's resurrection they try to equate that with Joseph Smith's first
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vision accounts where he has multiple discrepancies that are irreconcilable we're going to be examining the alleged
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discrepancies in the New Testament and we are going to find those discrepancies are not real true discrepancies their
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differences in their accounts but those differences in the accounts when you put them all together actually agree with
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one another that is what we're going to see here when we are addressing the claims of these Jewish rabbis who make
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an unfair parallel with Mormonism on contrast we're going to be looking at the first vision accounts of Joseph
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Smith and we're going to see that his accounts cannot be reconciled that he gave different versions of his account
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and that those different versions cannot be put together to agree with one another but rather to disagree and to
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discount the claims of Joe Smith just like Christianity which has a historical event at the basis of its
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claims so Mormonism has the alleged historical event of Joseph Smith's first vision at
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the basis of its claims so again in evaluating the claims of both Christianity and Mormonism we need to
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look at the historical basis and are they reliable is the witness of Joseph Smith reliable are his first vision
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accounts irreconcilable or can you reconcile them we're going to look at that we're going to apply the same
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standard that we apply to Mormonism to Christianity and we're going to find that unlike the claims of the Jewish
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rabbis who try to say that Christianity is the Mormonism of Judaism it's quite the opposite Christianity can stand up
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under the examination of the evidence when you put everything all together but Mormonism cannot and that's why
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Mormonism is a counterfeit but Christianity is the real thing as we find in Christ he has fulfilled the Old
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Testament prophecies of the Messiah and has indeed resurrected to prove he is not a liar or a lunatic but rather he is
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Lord Almighty these are the claims of what we are going to be looking at today and this is the conclusion that we will
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end on with this video series now let's start with the first claim of the Jewish rabbis against the resurrection accounts
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of Christ they start out by questioning the reliability of the New Testament gospel accounts and what I'm going to be
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using as my reference in addressing their claims against the eyewitness testimonies in the gospel is a book cold
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case Christianity by Jay Warner Wallace J Warner Wallace is a former homicide detective who served for many years
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bringing evidence in cold cases to court he talks about the evidence for the resurrection accounts using the same
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kind of reasoning kind of argumentation but he would present his cases in a court of
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law I really appreciate what Jane Werner Wallace had to say when he was examining the accounts of the resurrection given
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in the Gospels one of the things that he pointed out throughout his book is how when he would bring a case to court to
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try to point to who could possibly have committed the crime he would present a variety of evidence that the detectives
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would gather at the scene and these were called cold cases for the primary reason because they don't have first-hand
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evidence that the criminal was not caught in the act and when he wasn't caught in the act you have to put
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together the pieces at the crime scene to try to fill in the gaps of what actually occurred at the event that is
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the job of detectives and as J Warner Wallace explains they would put forth a case against a particular individual who
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they felt was the most reasonable person to have committed the crime and the job of the defense attorneys is to go
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against those accusations by trying to find something wrong in the testimony they will question the integrity of the
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eyewitnesses of those people who may have seen the event or may have seen some aspect of the event they'll
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question the motives of the eyewitness and they will raise doubt as to the reliability of the eyewitness account
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that's exactly what we see today in the accusations of skeptics and Jewish rabbis who assert that the New Testament
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is a reliable just like defense attorneys will present evidence or try to make the case that they're that the
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defendant wasn't present at the event or their defendant didn't actually couldn't possibly have committed the crime didn't
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have the right motives or they'll try to attack the witnesses of the event bye-bye
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awaiting that perhaps the witnesses had ulterior motives that would have led them to lie about who actually committed
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the crime those are all things that defense attorneys do when they are attacking the evidence in favor of a
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conviction of the criminal that's exactly what we see with skeptics and with Jewish rabbis who try to attack the
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resurrection accounts they try to assert first and foremost that the Gospel writers didn't actually write the
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Gospels that those those writers weren't actually eyewitnesses of the accounts of Jesus even though they assert that they
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are mark for example which is considered one of the earliest if not the earliest gospel to have been written
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they will assert that that was written sometime perhaps in the second century or very late first century and they'll
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assert that it was written by somebody other than the Gospel writers somebody other than Mark or somebody other than
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an eyewitness to Jesus Christ and that they will assert that mark would just had the name put on the book just to
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make it look authentic that is one of their claims we're gonna examine that claim today the second claim that the
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skeptics bring up against Christianity would be the idea of the integrity of the Gospel accounts they will question
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if the Gospel writers really saw a literal vision of Jesus Christ a literal person appearing or whether it was just
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some imagination that's one of the arguments that the Jewish rabbis bring up though assert that or everybody just
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like Paul saw Jesus in the vision they'll assert that most of the people if not all of them we just saw Jesus and
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the vision so it wasn't real but that's not true because when you read the Gospel accounts what do we read we read
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Jesus appearing to Thomas and he says put your hands in my side feel these nail holes how do you feel something if
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he's not physically present in the room we also see other accounts where Jesus ate food and walked with the disciples
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that doesn't sound to me like a vision or an immaterial spirit appearing to them and then you
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have another account when we just look at the testimony of Paul who was the last one to see Jesus and it does say in
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the text that although the people that were travelling with Paul heard a voice they didn't see anyone but they heard a
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voice so they did attest to having at least heard something when Paul went blind he had something physically
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happened when he saw Jesus but then he spent a majority of his time among the eyewitnesses of Christ's
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resurrection among the disciples themselves he was trained by the disciples so he was taught the true
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teachings of Christ through eyewitness testimonies and then he goes on in first Corinthians 15 to explain that five
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hundred people saw Jesus at once now if Jesus was just a vision appearing to the disciples or in just a small
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little group like the rabbi's would have you believe the rabbi's would have you believe that was just Jesus's close
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associates who had these visions just like people who lose a loved one quite often will you know hallucinate ideas of
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talking with their dead loved ones and that is a common occurrence but to have five hundred people at once seeing Jesus
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now that is something that stretches the reality of visions beyond credulity you can't make that just some you know
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immaterial vision or or dream when 500 people at once saw Jesus and Paul even went on to say the greater number exists
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even to this day at the time of his writing in 1st Corinthians 15 this doesn't sound like something that was
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written in the second century if the people the greater number existed at the time to be able to validate what Paul
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was saying in this letter is very hard to make the case that this was something written by non eyewitnesses that this
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was not a testimony of eyewitnesses that this wasn't a valid fact when he had so many people who attesting to having
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scene Jesus Christ the other thing that Jewish skeptics will bring up against the gospel counts is the idea of
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discrepancies as I mentioned earlier just like Jay Warner Wallace brings up in his book here in cold case
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Christianity what's the prosecuting attorneys when they bring up evidence against a
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defendant the defense attorneys job is to pick apart that evidence and what they'll do is they'll try to get the
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they'll try to get the the court to look at little pieces of the evidence that don't seem to line up to raise enough
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ambiguity in the case so that he can't the the jury cannot give a conviction and that's exactly what skeptics do
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today because just by Nature cold cases do not have a hundred-percent evidence backing every little detail in the event
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so it's true just like pieces in a puzzle you can put together some of the pieces but you don't have all the pieces
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on the resurrection of Christ and that's the same with the Gospel accounts we don't have absolutely every little piece
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of the resurrection account accounted for within the Gospels so we have to assemble the picture and take each of
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the gospel accounts and when you put them together causing the Gospels to be looked at as complementary to one
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another not kind of Dichter eetu and one another but complementary that is when you're able to put together a case for
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the reliability of the Gospels as giving a true account of Christ's resurrection and that is what we're gonna look at
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we're gonna look at some of the details that skeptics bring up against the resurrection account and we're going to
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show how those details can be reconciled if we put the gospel accounts together and so that's what we'll do in the
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second part of our video and then finally we're going to examine Joseph Smith's first vision account and the
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irreconcilability z– within his different versions of the account and show how there is no parallel between
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Mormonism's historical event or alleged his storico event and Christian needs true
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historical event of the resurrection of Christ which has been verified by many eyewitnesses and also unbelievers of the
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first century who wrote about the life of Christ so let's dig into the evidence for the resurrection of Christ now now
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as we get into the details of these accounts I'm going to be using a few resources to discuss first of all the
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credibility of the eyewitness accounts I've already mentioned this cold case Christian ebook by Jade Warner Wallis
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and I'm also going to be reading from Josh McDowell's the new evidence that demands a verdict this book is excellent
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not only in dealing with the credibility of the New Testament and the reliability of the manuscripts of the New Testament
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it also discusses the Old Testament and how we know that we can trust our Bible and as you can see it's a very thick
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book it provides a lot of good information first of all let's look at what J Warner
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Wallis provides as evidence of the biblical accounts of the gospel being valid eyewitness accounts we're gonna
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look at a chart that he gives he kind of it's basically a graphic that he put together and this is found on page 256
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of his Colt case Christianity book and here he talks about first of all the unintentional support for the Gospels
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the Gospels agree with the kinds of things you would find in first century like the correct names the types of
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names that we find given in the Gospel accounts fit first century names the most common names we find in the first
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century are the kinds of names we find in the Gospel accounts appropriate language the language is consistent with
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first century writings we find correct locations the non biblical corroboration and Jewish corroboration we see Jewish
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writers and non Christian writers corroborating the types of events or even like the life of Christ Jewish
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writers wrote about a man who was known for his miracles and the course they attributed
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his powers to the demons to Beelzebub as the Gospel accounts also explain but they do recognize both that Jesus lived
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that he was killed for his beliefs and of course his claims to be the Messiah and so these kinds of collaborations are
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found in the writings of non-christian and Jewish scholars of the day archaeology of course verifies many of
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the events or specific places in the New Testament we also see that the Gospels were accurately delivered when we look
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at the manuscript support for the Gospels it seems that they have been preserved and we covered this a lot in
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our video series on textual variants in the New Testament so if you want to review some of that I did go into some
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of those details in that video but as J Warner Wallace he reviews some of that same evidence for the textual veracity
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of the New Testament in this book and then he talks about the evidence for the New Testament writers and the Gospels
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having been written before 70 AD the general etta station is that many of the Gospels were written any time before 70
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AD there's no mention of the destruction of Jerusalem either in the book of Acts which mentions several events that
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occurred with the Apostles there's no mention of of the destruction of of Jerusalem or the the Gospel writers are
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also silent about the major persecutions that came against the church in 61 to 65 so of these Gospel accounts or the book
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of Acts were written after these events it seems kind of strange that at least acts would not have at least mentioned
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these major persecutions of the Church none of the martyrdoms the Apostles are mentioned in the gospel or the book of
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Acts and if we look so we find that pasa Paul who wrote to several churches in some cases
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referencing churches that were later destroyed by persecution and so many people believe many scholars believe
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that Paul wrote his letters sometime between you know 53 82 57 80 and he cites Luke's Gospel now how can Paul
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cite Luke's Gospel if Luke's Gospel wasn't written until the latter part of the first century or the early second
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century again these are some of the reasons why biblical scholars place the gospel writings in very early at least
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by the middle part of the first century and then we see also mark seems to have been perhaps the first gospel account to
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have been written and mark is relied heavily on Peters support for the his gospel as well in fact many people
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believe Peter worked directly with mark in producing that gospel and Mark was a definitely an eyewitness with Peters
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experience with Jesus so these are all things that support the new testament witness of Christ and finally in this
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graph here Jay Wallace Warner talks about how the New Testament accounts are tested by the fact that they did not
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have any ulterior motives for a conspiracy or for trying to propagate a deception that Jesus rose from the dead
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and he points out they were not driven by financial gain they were not driven by sexual lust or relationships they
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were not driven by a pursuit of power and these are the kinds of things that witnesses who are trying to propagate a
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lie are usually driven by and when you don't have any evidence of any of this type of motive that would be behind the
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New Testament writers propagating a lie or being part of a conspiracy to try to make it look like Yeshua Jesus rose from
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the dead and when he suppose didn't if that were the case why would they go to their deaths why are there so
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many examples of the horrendous deaths of the martyrs and even Apostle Paul you know undergoing stoning and shipwreck
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and everything for the gospel of Christ he had absolutely nothing to gain for believing this idea that Jesus rose from
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the dead or for teaching this idea if if they knew that this was false that they were part of this supposed conspiracy to
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try to to proclaim something that didn't happen they have absolutely nothing to gain and
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in fact when we look at the New Testament accounts what do we see the disciples were hiding in the upper room
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and when they first heard from the woman that Jesus rose from the dead what did they do did they go oh wow this you know
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let's check this out well they looked at the empty tomb but they didn't believe the woman they questioned their
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testimony because they were not expecting him to rise from the dead and that wasn't because Jesus hadn't told
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them he had warned them that he would die and that he would rise from the dead but they had forgotten about those
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statements and they didn't want to believe that it didn't fit what they thought Jesus was going to do so there
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was absolutely nothing to gain for promoting the a myth or a conspiracy that Jesus rose from the dead in fact
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quite the opposite they promoted this idea at the expense of their own lives and that is one of the evidences that
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seems to indicate that these new testament gospel writers were indeed eyewitnesses to the resurrection of
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jesus christ to a real valid historical fact now let's look at something else that josh mcdowell gives as support for
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the new testament gospel accounts i want to share some of the things that he has to say first of all he provides a chart
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for the conservative datings for the gospel paul's letters being 52 66 notes Matthew 7280 mark 50 to 60 or 58
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to 65 depending on you know which scholar you're going with Luke early dating of about the 60s and John eighty
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to a hundred at the max conservative dating many points out some of the liberal dating that would you know put
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these letters later than that time frame but one of the things that he knows is William Fox well operate one of the
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world's foremost biblical archaeologist said we can already say emphatically that there is no longer any solid basis
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for dating any book of the New Testament after about 80 AD two full generations before the date between 130 and 150
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given by the more radical New Testament critics of today and that's definitely the camp that these Jewish rabbis fall
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under they claim that the the majority of these writings in the New Testament and these gospel records in particularly
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were rich and closer to the second century and so they go with these late dates but as this scholar says Albright
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says there is no longer any solid basis for dating any book of the New Testament after about AD 80 so then he goes on
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here it's this point in an interview for Christianity today 18th of January 1963 in my opinion every book of the New
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Testament was written by a baptized Jew between the 40s and the 80s of the 1st century AD very probably sometime
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between about 80 50 and 75 and that was his view opera concludes thanks to the quorum discovers the New Testament
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proves to be in fact what it was formerly believed to be the teaching of Christ and his immediate followers
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between circa 25 and circa 80 AD many and that's Albright and he gives his reference here many liberal scholars are
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being forced to consider earlier dates for the New Testament and that's the bottom line anyone who
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with this evidence still believes the Gospels were written well after the time of any new testament or any eyewitness
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testimony could be gained from them to be inserted into the gospel text really has to discard regard the evidence not
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only the evidence of the Gospel writers who said that they were eyewitnesses of these events but also the internal
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evidence of the gospel writings using first century language first century names the archaeological support and
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they have to disregard even the internal quotations of the Gospels amongst themselves particularly like the letters
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of Paul quoting Luke you really have to stretch credulity to try to embrace the later dates that these Jewish rabbis and
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skeptics [ __ ] for the Gospels so again if they're going to continue to postulate those concepts those idea that
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the New Testament was written so far after the events in the life of time of Christ then you're doing so because you
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have a bias against the New Testament not because of historical facts but because you don't want to bleed these
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facts and indeed that's exactly the point the day Warner Wallace makes in his book here on Cole Crace Christianity
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he talks about the fact that you know some of these skeptics will go so far as to look at the fact that the New
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Testament Gospel accounts do not record the destruction of the temple in 70 AD and they'll say something along the
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lines like well maybe it was excluded from the Gospels simply because they want the writers who made up these books
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because that's what they think in these minds that these were written after well after the time of the of the eyewitness
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accounts they will say well they were trying to prove that Jesus made a prophecy after the fact after it
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happened so they wouldn't mention the destruction of the temple and again that's again the kind of excuse or kind
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of argument a person would get when they don't want to believe the truth don't want to believe the evidence that
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actually the earlier dating fits better with the evidence and it's the most reasonable conclusion for these Gospel
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accounts to have been written as first hand eyewitness accounts or at least with the
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strong influence like in the Gospel of Mark strong influence of Peters experiences with Jesus so that is the
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evidence that we that we can see that supports the New Testament counts as indeed eyewitness accounts of the Lord
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Jesus Christ and his resurrection now I want to talk about the next point here the Jewish rabbis bring up against
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the a resurrection of Jesus Christ is they will point to alleged discrepancies between those accounts and I just want
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to talk about a few of them here these are the points that were put together by Jews for Judaism you'll see the rabbi
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featured there on screen and he argues that there's a discrepancy on the day that Jesus was crucified because you
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have one account saying that it was a preparation day or the day before the Passover in John 19 through 21 and then
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the other accounts the other Gospels say it was the first day of Passover now this is easily reconciled the Passover
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Feast the whole area at several days that encompassed that holiday in the Jewish system if you say the preparation
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day that was the first day of the Passover range not the specific day of Passover but it was a preparation day
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when they would kill the Lambs and so these Gospel accounts that say the first day of Passover they're alluding to the
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first day that that whole Passover holiday would begin and it would begin with a preparation day which was
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essentially the first day of Passover so this is an easy reconcilable so-called discrepancy and it's not a real
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discrepancy when you understand how they looked at that time frame in the Jewish system the next discrepancy they bring
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up would be who carried jesus' cross in three of the Gospel accounts Matthew Mark and Luke they say the simon of
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cyrene carried his cross and John ahead Jesus carrying his cross now I want you to know when you're looking at these
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alleged discrepancies is there any indication that alike in the example of John does it say Jesus was the only one
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who carried his cross or does it just merely repres carrying his cross if it just merely references him carrying his
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cross it doesn't mean necessarily that Jesus carried his cross the whole way by the same token when you read in the
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other Gospel accounts that Simon of Cyrene carry Christ's cross the the question that needs to be asked is was
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he the only one that carried his cross and if you don't see any allusion to him being the only one to carry the cross
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then you can easily reconcile these Gospel accounts with the idea that Jesus started carrying his cross and then it
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became too heavy for him he was worn out from the beating and so then siren of Cyrene was compelled to carry his cross
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for him so we can reconcile those accounts easily by looking at the Gospel accounts and putting them together as
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complementary to each other not contradictory but rather filling in the gaps each one filling in different
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aspect of the Gospel accounts and that's what we're going to see to here in the next section of alleged discrepancies in
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the gospel account we have who was the first person to come to Jesus's tomb well yep mark 15 through 16 Mary
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Magdalene Mary the mother and Salome Mary the mother of Jesus he says here in the chart I believe when I read the text
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was actually Mary the mother of James but either way then you go to Matthews account
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he says Mary Magdalene and another woman named Mary and then in Luke's account is Mary Magdalene Mary the mother of James
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and Jonah and other women and then of course in John's account we have only Mary Magdalene being mentioned
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as coming to the – how do we reconcile this well we're gonna reconcile that by putting all the accounts together in
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just a minute I want you to to remember that thought so there's a question on who was the first to come to the tomb
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who was actually at the tomb when these angels appeared how many angels actually appeared those are differences in the
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accounts we're gonna look at that in just a minute I want to also look at some more of his claims what did the
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woman see at the tomb mark 1415 a young man sitting inside the tomb Jesus has risen okay so you see a young man no it
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was actually Mary thought it was a gardener or other people thought they saw angels okay Matthew 27 28 angels
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sitting on the rock outside the tomb you have luke account two men standing inside the tomb and
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that two men was actually two angels and many of our translations of this past these passages and then we have John and
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men Mary first arrives at the tomb she sees no one when she returns later with two disciples she sees two angels okay
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so we have all of these accounts how do we reconcile them we're going to now put those accounts together asking the
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question who was first at the tomb who actually was there with Mary or without Mary was very there multiple times were
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these woman's there multiple times did the what did the woman see did they see an angel did they see a man – this see
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two angels where they actually see and then we're also going to ask the question of what time did these events
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take place they will point out that some of the timeframe given in the Gospel accounts for example in Matthew says
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that as it began to dawn that's when Mary Magdalene was at the tomb mark 16 says after the Sun has
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risen and we have Luke very early in the morning the woman took spices and then we have John who is saying while it was
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still dark so when did Mary Magdalene action get there when do the other women get
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there were there several groups of women that came to the tomb we need to ask that question could that account for
00:35:45
some references saying that it was before the dawn or as it was beginning to dawn or very early in the morning
00:35:52
that's kind of a vague term that could be you know when it's dawning or after the Sun had risen we could also see the
00:36:00
reference while it was still dark well if this event took place while it was still dark
00:36:05
it wasn't taking place after the Sun had risen so that does lead the idea lead to the idea that there were several times
00:36:15
that various groups of women were at the tomb and that is the position that I land on especially in reconciling the
00:36:23
different names that are thrown out who was at the tomb was it just Mary Magdalene by herself or was it Mary with
00:36:29
the other Mary or Mary the mother of James or was it Mary Magdalene by herself or what about these other woman
00:36:40
that are mentioned Joanna and Mary the mother James along with other women and many of these counts talked about the
00:36:47
other woman don't necessarily give their names so it kind of gives the idea that this is taking place with many different
00:36:57
groups of women coming to the tomb and somewhere in this mix you have the disciples also coming to the tomb
00:37:05
particularly Peter and John who ran to the tomb to see to find it empty so let me now explain what I believe actually
00:37:15
occurred and how I reconcile these accounts I reconcile them with first the idea when we read in Matthew 28 and in
00:37:25
mark 16 you have a reference to Mary Magdalene being the first to appear at the tomb it says in mark 16:9 now at
00:37:33
that point it doesn't specifically say that the first time Mary came to the tomb because I do believe she came to
00:37:40
the tomb more than once it doesn't say that this first time the Mary came to the tomb that it was after the Sun had
00:37:48
risen however it does say that when Mary Magdalene came with Mary the mother of James and Salome
00:37:55
Ian brought spices it says after the Sun had risen so it does kind of give the idea that maybe perhaps Mary came to the
00:38:03
tomb by herself while it was still dark and then the woman with spices came later perhaps they were not staying
00:38:11
together and they got you know a later start with the spices the ones who were bringing the spices and Mary just ran to
00:38:16
the tomb ahead of them it's hard to say exactly but that is kind of where I kind of lean to this idea that she might have
00:38:24
gotten to the tomb first before these other women did because it does say she that Jesus first appeared to Mary
00:38:31
Magdalene by and it does seem to kind of indicate she was by herself because we have no reference to the other woman
00:38:38
when we read John's account of Mary as well at the tomb while the tomb was still dark we also read in John's
00:38:46
account that when Mary Magdalene saw these angels it was two angels that appeared to her but when we read of the
00:38:54
account with Mary Magdalene when the other women with spices encounter the angels we see it's not the angels plural
00:39:03
but rather they see an angel so that's another indication that these were different times that Mary Magdalene
00:39:12
was at the tomb and that the other women were at the tomb and then what else can we see in this account if Mary Magdalene
00:39:20
got to the tomb before the other women came with the spices it is conceivable that when she got to the tomb she saw
00:39:28
the stone rolled away and the other woman soon followed and potentially arrived at the tomb but here we find
00:39:37
Mary stunned by the stone being rolled away and thinking that the body of Jesus might have been stolen that she
00:39:45
immediately leaves the women who came with the spices and runs back to tell Peter in John and so when she goes to
00:39:53
tell the disciples Peter and John what do we see what what actually happened I believe that at the sight of the empty
00:40:03
tomb Mary Julie left Salome and the other Mary who had come with the spices and add she
00:40:09
left them at the tomb and Mary left by herself to tell Peter and John that the body was missing and she's particularly
00:40:17
said we do not know where they have taken him now when she says we doesn't mean that the other woman were with her
00:40:23
when she was talking to Peter and John rather she's making allusion to the fact that those other women that arrived with
00:40:30
the spices arrived there along with her saw the tomb empty so she ran away to tell I believe Peter and John during
00:40:39
that time I believe while the other women were still at the tomb either there's two possible ways we can
00:40:46
reconcile either those women with the spices decided to leave for a period of time you know disillusion what do we do
00:40:54
we can't you know embalm the body and perhaps they came back later and had the encounter with the angels or they maybe
00:41:02
saw the angels when Mary was talking to Peter and John and going to get Peter and John and perhaps they had that
00:41:11
encounter with the the single angel who appeared to them and told them he's not here he's risen but Mary wasn't there to
00:41:19
hear that because she was going to get Peter and John and then perhaps when Peter and John ran to the tomb perhaps
00:41:28
that's when Mary followed them came back to the tomb this time by this time the woman with the spices had already left
00:41:36
and when they had already left with the news being told to tell the disciples that Jesus had risen and to meet them in
00:41:45
Galilee perhaps while they are heading back to tell the disciples that is when Mary and Peter and John show up at the
00:41:53
tomb Peter and John immediately see that the tomb is empty so they run back to the other disciples to share the news
00:42:02
while the women with the spices preceded them running back to the disciples and to say that the angel had appeared to
00:42:10
them meanwhile Mary doesn't know any of this she's left at the tomb alone here at her second time
00:42:18
the tomb and that's why we get here at the rising of the Sun this is when Mary's there at the tomb alone and now
00:42:26
she sees two angels who speak to her and tell her that she that he's not there that he's risen and she turns around and
00:42:39
sees a man standing there thinking that this is the gardener she asked him where the body of Jesus and then you know of
00:42:48
course Jesus we all know the story says that reveals himself to her and calls her by her name and she recognizes that
00:42:56
he's her Lord that he's resurrected from the dead and so here we see Jesus's first appearance being to Mary when she
00:43:05
was by herself and I think that just easily reconciles the differences that we see in the
00:43:11
Gospel accounts between the women with the spices that were perhaps with Mary the first time Mary maybe Mary got there
00:43:18
first but I believe the time when she was actually alone when the Angels appeared to her was after those one
00:43:25
moment the spices had left and after the disciples Peter and John had seen the empty tomb again they didn't know about
00:43:33
the resurrection of Christ and so there's no indication in the account that neither Mary or the disciples had
00:43:40
seen any angels prior to this coming to the tomb the second time in the case of Mary coming the second time and the
00:43:47
disciples coming there for the first time so that's how I reconcile those differences and then what else do we
00:43:55
have to to deal with we talked about the different time frame of the Sun again while it was still dark as it was
00:44:04
beginning to dawn the women with the spices at the tomb they first get there it's beginning to dawn but doesn't take
00:44:09
long for the Sun to rise and so as all of these events are transpiring no doubt the Sun came up and so here we have Mary
00:44:17
after the Sun had risen coming back to the tomb and perhaps it's also the time frame that these women who had brought
00:44:26
spices incurred the angels with the son risen up and then going back to the disciples all of this took some time
00:44:35
with them their paths crossing on the way to the Tumen and back and forth there's also some indication perhaps
00:44:43
there may have been another group of women that showed up at the tomb after Mary went back to the disciples after
00:44:51
the woman with the spices had gone to the disciples and reported these things that Jesus had risen from the dead
00:45:00
perhaps that is when we see these other women that came to the tomb and like Johanna and some of the others that are
00:45:08
not mentioned and we also want to keep in mind here when the the women are at the tomb and they do encounter first
00:45:17
that angel that told them that Jesus had risen these women with the spices it specifically says in mark's account says
00:45:28
go tell his disciples and Peter he is going ahead of you to Galilee and there you will see him just as he told you I
00:45:34
find it interesting that in mark's account he specifically says go tell the disciples and Peter that seems to
00:45:40
indicate to me that perhaps the angel being well aware that Peter and John had seen the empty tomb that perhaps that's
00:45:50
why he emphasized go and tell the disciples and Peter so overall when we put all of the
00:46:02
accounts together and basically lay them out like you would the pieces of a puzzle you can kind of fill in the
00:46:08
missing pieces of the puzzle that are not given in the Gospel of counts and see how they essentially reconcile when
00:46:15
you lay them over and see how the Gospel accounts actually complement each other some accounts giving more information
00:46:23
than other accounts are like in the case of John he provides a whole lot more information that's not carried in
00:46:30
Matthew and Mark and Luke's account where encounter Jesus and saw the two women a lot more details the disciples
00:46:38
running to the tomb that's not given in the other Gospel accounts but that does not make them caught a dick tree rather
00:46:46
it makes some complimentary and as we can see we can easily reconcile these accounts now I want to just take a
00:46:54
moment here and look at a little bit more of some of the alleged discrepancies that are also given how
00:47:03
about like what is said to the woman or what I said to Mary she's told not to test Jesus because he hasn't ascended to
00:47:12
their father and we read about in Hebrews that Jesus had to after he made purification for sins he had to enter
00:47:19
into the holy place in heaven so we read that in Mary's account in John but then we also read later on that
00:47:28
when the disciples were in the Upper Room and Jesus appears to them that is when they were allowed to touch him in
00:47:35
fact Jesus told Thomas to put his finger in his side I also want to point out that when the women are told to tell the
00:47:46
disciples that Jesus will meet them in Galilee we see that in a couple of the counts they're told that but in one of
00:47:53
their accounts in mark it says the woman told no one after they had talked spoken with the Angels and left the tomb well
00:48:01
the even though the text doesn't say it we can conclude that just like we read in the other accounts where the
00:48:08
disciples said they did not believe the testimony of the woman the woman did tell the disciples about the
00:48:15
resurrection of Christ but it's said they told no one on the road on their journey back to the town to the upper
00:48:23
room so again we have to just take all of these pieces and put them together as a puzzle piece realizing that the text
00:48:30
is complementary not contradictory and then I want to address a few more let's look at like what was said on the sign
00:48:41
the Jewish rabbis bring up the argument the signs had differences in the different accounts we have the king of
00:48:49
the Jews or this is Jesus the King of the Jews all we have this is the king of the Jews or in John's account this is
00:48:55
Jesus of Nazareth the King of the Jews now when we take all that put – and put it together we can see how John provided
00:49:04
more information than the other accounts did and all together we can come up with that conclusion of what was actually on
00:49:10
the site this is Jesus the King of the Jews Jesus of Nazareth that's not a contradiction that's complementary none
00:49:19
of the statements in the Texas that this is the only tax that was on the sign and that's a very important point to look
00:49:27
for if these were to be legitimate discrepancies that could not be reconciled we have to read things like
00:49:34
this is the only appearance of Jesus to the disciples or this is the only appearance of Jesus to women at the tomb
00:49:41
and that is simply not stated in the text so we can conclude that there is just reasonable to conclude that there
00:49:49
were different accounts of the woman at the tomb appearing to the the angels were appearing to these women or in the
00:49:58
case of Christ he appeared to Mary Magdalene first and then he appeared to different groups of the disciples like
00:50:06
on the road to Emmaus or let's say in Galilee they're told to meet him in Galilee Acts actually tells us it acts
00:50:13
1:3 that there are many more occasions of Jesus appearing to people the disciples of women many more than what's
00:50:24
recorded so we have to see how the text gives allowance to you know maybe some ambiguity that isn't
00:50:32
fully stated in the text but that can be easily reconciled the disciples are told to wait in Jerusalem but for the coming
00:50:40
of the Holy Spirit but that doesn't mean that it didn't also see Jesus in Galilee it doesn't mean that there weren't
00:50:46
occasions you know in these other places where Jesus appeared so again all of these statements that we see in the
00:50:54
gospel you have to take them as pieces of a puzzle and realize that just as in cases that are given at the court for
00:51:05
cold cases where we don't have all of the evidence we just have to take all the evidence that we do have and draw a
00:51:12
reasonable conclusion with the evidence and that reasonable conclusion given the eyewitness testimony of the disciples
00:51:21
these writings claiming to be eyewitness testimonies being consistent with first century verbage language it all seems to
00:51:33
fit that these are legitimate eyewitness accounts and there is no evidence to the contrary there isn't a case of another
00:51:41
account being written that was danger the first-century saying that those Gospel accounts were not a witness
00:51:47
accounts nobody contradicted these statements when Luke wrote out and said that this is an eyewitness account of
00:51:53
most excellent Theophilus he was not contradicted by a Theophilus saying oh no I hear somewhere that your account is
00:52:01
not valid nobody ever come addicted that in fact the church fathers actually regarded
00:52:07
these Gospel accounts the early church fathers regarded them as authentic there is no indication anyone questioned the
00:52:15
authenticity of this so again that all again lends support to these accounts being valid so the important thing I
00:52:22
want to I want to point out is that for these accounts to be irreconcilable you have to see statements like only this is
00:52:31
the only one who held you who carried Jesus's cross or you know when Jesus was giving wine and myrrh in one account
00:52:39
some wine with gal or sour wine you know none of those accounts say he was only given sour wine or you know when we see
00:52:47
the time frame of Jesus's crucifixion which unfolded over a course of several hours one account saying at nine o'clock
00:52:54
another account given more of a noon time frame it probably unfolded over that full length of time so it wasn't a
00:53:02
discrepancy when you look at the two different counts given different time references for the crucifixion and you
00:53:09
know you just many of these arguments are just so easy to basically see how they don't show any
00:53:18
discrepancy just by simply laying them all out and saying well let's take that all the pieces here and let's put them
00:53:25
all together like in a puzzle and we see again they are not contradictory they are complementary that is simply not the
00:53:33
case with what we have with Joseph Smith's first vision account the resurrection
00:53:39
stories for example had many people and many different times at many different events and many different places
00:53:47
occurring the the they're either seeing an angel they're seeing Jesus and there's nothing in those accounts let's
00:53:56
say that these were the exact same events but rather different events these are different people different groups of
00:54:02
women were at the tomb at different times whether you know before the Sun was up or after the Sun had risen those
00:54:11
were different events those are not the one in the same event that is simply not the case with Joseph Smith who couldn't
00:54:17
figure out how old he was when the first vision occurred was he 14 15 16 there are differences in his own accounts
00:54:28
about these events and what he told his followers which by the way there were absolutely no other witnesses of the
00:54:36
first vision Joseph Smith was the only one so getting his own story confused there
00:54:42
is no excuse for that when he can't figure out whether it is Jesus who told him that his sins are forgiven or
00:54:49
whether he read it in the scriptures that his sins are forgiven that is a discrepancy that is Iraq of
00:54:55
soluble this is not the case of two occurrences of Christ talking to Joseph Smith and telling him one thing or
00:55:02
perhaps not telling him because he was reading it in the scriptures I mean there are differences in the first
00:55:09
vision accounts did Joseph Smith learn of the apostasy through his first vision account or did he learn it through
00:55:16
searching the scriptures those are the differences we see we see Joseph Smith saw two personages in one of his account
00:55:25
the father and the son in another account of the same event justice Lewis said that he saw the Lord
00:55:32
of glory and there's no mention of the father and so then you know you have to ask well who did he actually see did he
00:55:39
see the father or did he not see the father now you have the case where Marana visits Joseph Smith in the 21st
00:55:49
of September 1823 but then in another account is a 22nd of September okay not a big deal maybe got
00:56:00
mixed up on what day but then it's 18 22 that's a whole year difference when this angel supposedly appears and in some of
00:56:07
the accounts it's not the angel Moroni he appears drunk to Joseph Smith it's the angel Nephi he couldn't even figure
00:56:15
out his own angel who appeared to him in the bedroom and we also have discrepancies in this you know whole
00:56:24
first vision in the coming forth of the Book of Mormon story with the whole idea of an 1820 a revival that supposedly
00:56:33
spurred Joseph Smith to ask which churches to join well if we go back to the newspapers of that time frame there
00:56:41
was no activity no revival in the area that Joseph Smith was in at this time until 1824 but yet Joseph Smith claims
00:56:50
they had this Perce vision in 1820 again it doesn't agree with the historical record we find 1st New Testament
00:56:57
accounts the Gospel accounts agree with the historical record but the historical record of Justice mistake do not
00:57:05
validate just miss claims nor do they validate his first vision accounts or his alleged
00:57:12
time frame that he gives for these events for example Joseph Smith says that when he encountered the angel
00:57:18
Moroni three years after his first vision the angel Moroni tells him that he cannot receive the gold plates for
00:57:25
another additional four years now if you put that together you have the first vision supposedly in 1820 he then meets
00:57:34
the angel Moroni in 1823 or perhaps it's the angel Nephi again there's discrepancies in the his own accounts
00:57:41
but 1823 he meets this angel supposedly more on eye and then he doesn't get the plates for another four years
00:57:49
that's a total of seven years for the time he has his first vision to the time when he can obtain the plates now let's
00:57:55
just think about this for a minute if you have Joseph Smith not getting the plates for seven years after the first
00:58:01
vision and then you read in Joseph Smith's account that he is seeking God to know what church to join and we read
00:58:11
from close apostles and John a Witsel records this in his book apostle he records that Joseph Smith was not able
00:58:21
to he actually started to pray about what church to join because his brother Alvin had died then whinnied brother
00:58:29
Alvin died while his brother Alvin died in 1823 in the fall of 1823 Joseph Smith claims to have had his vision his first
00:58:37
vision in the spring so now we have another discrepancy the historical account seems to put the first vision in
00:58:45
1824 not in 1820 we have the revivals occurring in 1824 we have Joseph Smith praying about what church to join after
00:58:54
Alvin's death which would again put the timeframe for this in 1824 now we got a problem because according to Joseph
00:59:02
Smith's own testimony it's seven years from the time of the first vision before he can receive the gold plates in order
00:59:09
to translate the Book of Mormon so add those seven years to 1824 the spring of 1824 and what do we get 1831 the first
00:59:18
year justice missed to obtain the goal plates to translate the Book of Mormon now if you have the
00:59:24
good book of mormon being published in 1830 but he doesn't receive the gold plates to translate the Book of Mormon
00:59:31
until 1831 we have a major problem with a chronology of the first vision account of Joseph Smith again there is
00:59:39
absolutely no comparison between Joseph Smith's first vision account and his story and the foundation that is given
00:59:48
for Mormonism and that of the New Testament gospel accounts that are reconciled with both archaeology
00:59:55
non-christian Jewish support for the life and the teachings of Jesus Christ we see all of this supporting and
01:00:04
corroborating the New Testament accounts the Gospel accounts and then when we tie the gospel accounts their testimonies
01:00:11
together recognizing that they fit like pieces in a puzzle that we can fill in some of those gaps by realizing that
01:00:19
there were many occasions where Jesus appeared to his disciples and many occasions were the Angels appear to
01:00:26
women at the tomb then it's easy to reconcile the alleged discrepancies and see them not as discrepancies not as
01:00:34
reasons to deny the the resurrection account of Christ which forms the basis for the Christian faith so again there
01:00:43
is no comparison with Mormonism Christianity is not the Mormonism of Judaism rather Christianity is ancient
01:00:53
Judaism restored according to the Bible it's Christianity that is taught in the Bible we can see the support for
01:01:01
Christianity in the ancient teachings of the ancient Jewish rabbis and we see the support of Christianity and Christian
01:01:10
beliefs from the Old Testament Scriptures going forth into the New Testament where we see the eyewitness
01:01:16
testimonies of Christ being validated both by the historical record the archaeological record and ultimately by
01:01:25
the the testimony of the eyewitness accounts who saw Christ saw the resurrected
01:01:33
and chose to devote their lives to him even though it costs them everything I hope this course has been encouraging to
01:01:44
you in your faith as a Christian and if you're a Jew watching this watching these videos I hope you consider the
01:01:51
claims of Christ and the claims of the New Testament and come to know Yeshua Jesus as your Lord and Savior now as we
01:02:03
conclude our series I like to leave you with a few resources that you can use for further study as I just merely
01:02:11
touched on some of these topics dealing with Judaism and there are objections to Christianity I highly recommend dr.
01:02:21
Michael Browns books this is Volume one of answering Jewish objections and here he talks about
01:02:28
general and historical objections I highly recommend that you read the series he has a five volume series
01:02:35
Volume one kind of deals with you know Jewish arguments like why didn't Jesus bring peace on the earth if he's the
01:02:43
Messiah because the Messiah is supposed to bring peace on the f:n kind of deals with a lot of their objections general
01:02:49
objections to the Messiah in volume 1 and volume 2 he deals with the sacrificial system and the claims of the
01:03:00
Jewish rabbis that we don't need a blood sacrifice I kind of touched on some of these things in one of my videos dealing
01:03:07
with you know Psalm 40 and sacrifice and offering you would not desire but a body you prepared for me that caught their
01:03:15
and my video on that but I highly recommend dr. Michael Browns books because he gets into a whole lot more
01:03:21
depth than what I can get into in this small little series I also recommend the vol 3 deals with the Messianic
01:03:30
prophecies and the Jewish interpretation of those prophecies and particularly things like the New Testament quotations
01:03:38
of the Old Testament that would be like you know Matthew's quotations and Isaiah 7:14 and I see a 9
01:03:46
many other passages of the Old Testament that are quoted in the New Testament does a really good job in volume 3 of
01:03:55
addressing those again in much more depth we kind of touched on some of these things in the video series but not
01:04:01
nearly to the level that you can get when you get a good 5 volume series from dr. Michael Brown addressing Jewish
01:04:08
objections l this is volume for answering Jewish objections to Jesus Michael Brown in this book deals with
01:04:16
New Testament objections that the rabbi's bring up against the New Testament and I saw some of the things
01:04:24
that he covered in here like the genealogies that are given of Jesus by Matthew supposedly the rabbis claim
01:04:33
those are those are kind of dick tree he addresses those claims and shows you how they're not contradictory this is just
01:04:42
some of the examples of the things you can see these are pretty thick volumes these are not you know small little
01:04:48
books he covers also you know as the New Testament self-contradictory and just really their objections to the New
01:04:56
Testament as a whole he addresses in this volume and then also answering [ __ ] objections to Jesus vol 5 this is his
01:05:06
most recent volume and he goes into more depth with rabbinic arguments addressing the traditional Jewish objections in in
01:05:15
the areas of you know rabbinic teachings and again a whole lot more understanding and depth that he has on Judaism then of
01:05:25
course I do in 1 year of research he's spent his lifetime studying Judaism and Michael dr. Michael Brown is indeed a
01:05:33
real authentic Jew I mean he was born a Jew and then of course became a Messianic Jew when he found Christ so he
01:05:41
really addresses things from a deep understanding not only having grown up Jewish he also has spent a significant
01:05:50
amount of time getting his doctorate in Near Eastern languages I forget how many languages he knows but I mean he can
01:05:58
actually read the source documents that I have to rely on English translations when I
01:06:02
was doing my research dr. Michael Brown could actually go to the source and so he does that in these volumes and like I
01:06:08
really like this chapter he has here in the appendix on unequal weights and measures and he shows the
01:06:15
inconsistencies of the one standard that the Jewish rabbis will apply to the New Testament if they applied that same
01:06:22
standard to try to write off the New Testament if they played that to the Old Testament they would not be able to to
01:06:29
hold their arguments and that's the reality though to apply one standard of the nest estimate that is just not even
01:06:36
a reliable standard to use for any work of antiquity let alone work that is regarded as Scripture and the Jewish
01:06:44
rabbis don't apply those same measuring standards to their Old Testament so again unequal weights and measures a
01:06:52
critique of methodologies of the anti missionaries those of the anti-jewish the anti-christian Jewish rabbis that
01:07:02
attack Christianity so again if anyone understands how to deal with Jewish objections is certainly
01:07:08
as dr. Michael Brown in addition to his five volume books he also has a couple YouTube channels the real Messiah is one
01:07:16
of his channels and ask dr. Brown because I would highly recommend that you check out those channels for his
01:07:22
answers to rabbinic objections there in the video format and you know I do have some differences with dr. Michael Brown
01:07:30
when it comes to some of his theological positions on non-essential issues and a few other things he gets a little more
01:07:36
charismatic than I'm comfortable with but when it comes to Judaism he really is the expert in that area now another
01:07:45
book that I would recommend to if you're not wanting to get quite as in-depth into researching Judaism perhaps you
01:07:53
know five volumes is a bit intimidating I would recommend then get refuting rabbinic objections to Christianity and
01:08:00
Messianic prophecies by eating bar he's believed the director of one for Israel that YouTube channel and also he's
01:08:09
working right in Israel with Jews who have come to know the miss oh Jesus and he's doing quite an amazing
01:08:16
online ministry to Jews and so he has this book out this is a fairly recent I believe he just came out with this book
01:08:23
I think it was 2019 don't quote me on let me look more quick oh yeah 2019 so it's a fairly new publication I really
01:08:33
found this book helpful especially when I was starting my research I've spent a lot of time in this book few issues that
01:08:40
I had was some of his sources that he would cite he was so familiar with them and that he didn't always give full
01:08:47
citations to the sources I had to do have been at digging probably anybody familiar with Judaism wouldn't have had
01:08:53
as much trouble digging up those sources but I kind of did because you know he might mention a rabbi but not exactly
01:09:01
tell you where that quote is actually found so that was a little frustrating but overall the quotes I was able to
01:09:08
source and find in my research definitely definitely helpful and in some cases he said enough in the book
01:09:17
that I knew kind of where to dig to get the answers I was looking for so I really I do really appreciate his work
01:09:24
here in this book and hopefully in subsequent editions he will maybe correct some of those citations so again
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these are the sources that I use in my research in addition quite a bit of YouTube videos I checked out online
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anything free that I could find especially as I was studying on a tight budget to begin with so but I ended up
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you know breaking down and buying these volumes because dr. Michael Brown is so in-depth in his research in these
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volumes and it's really a good library to have even if you're not studying Judaism it's a good library because it
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addresses a lot of common objections that people have to the gospel and also give real it provides a real good basis
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for understanding the roots of our our Christianity the Jewish roots of our Christian so again check out dr. michael
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brown's resources and there are other really good ministries as well and we'll be giving you lis
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if you go check out my website article on is Christianity the Mormonism of Judaism just the the regular article
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have all kinds of links to free resources online that you can use to understand in more depth there's other
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Messianic Christians or she used to say Messianic Jews who have done a significant amount of research in you
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know just understanding how the New Testament quotes the Old Testament and so I can't remember all the rabbi's
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former rabbi's I don't even want to call rabbi fruit and bomb I think his name he's written some some work and I have a
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link on my website to that as well in that article so again there's so much available that all you need to do is do
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a little more digging when you have questions that you can't answer just dig a little deeper and pray and the Lord
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will lead you to answers because Christianity is a reasonable faith given the evidence there's enough evidence out
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there if you have a heart to know truth and you have a heart to to believe to have faith then you can certainly find
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enough evidence to support that faith so thanks again for watching this series I hope you are blessed in your walk with
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Christ and if you aren't a Christian or if you aren't a Messianic Jew who has come to know Yeshua Jesus I encourage
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you to check out the scriptures and to read those scriptures with a heart to know the truth and ask God to reveal his
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son Yeshua Jesus issue the Messiah to you and I trust you will see that Jesus fulfills those roles all right as
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Messiah you can trust him you can know that he's forgiving you of your sins if you come to him and ask him to forgive
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you for what you've done wrong and make him your Lord and Savior and I can assure you that in coming to know Yeshua
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Jesus you can have that peace and that assurance of salvation that you cannot find in any other religion or any other
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type of thing that you pursue to find answers to that deep it deepest longing in your
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soul to know to know the truth and to know who God really is [Music]
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